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  • Wed, Feb 16 2011 8:50 PM In reply to

    Re: Media Composer 5.5

    EricADK:

    Right now Apple is a PC with different OS that doesn't thread as well as Windows 7. The gap is no longer there. However the Mac supporters will not see that so the market is as you state.

    Everone I know who's had to deal with Windows 7 has told me that it's a nightmare. Hearsay only, but enough to make me stay away.

    MC 5.5.2, OS 10.6.8, Mac Pro Westmere 12-core 2.66 6GB RAM 1TB HD, 4TB G-Speed eS RAID 0, 1TB Fantom GreenDrive Quad, Matrox MXO2 Mini, 2 LG Flatron 20... [view my complete system specs]
  • Wed, Feb 16 2011 8:53 PM In reply to

    Re: Media Composer 5.5

    BobbyMurcerFan:
    AVCHD is not native to MC and I don't believe it can be wrapped as MXF. So I believe fast importing AVCHD is a non-starter.

     

    That's correct, that's the beauty of having something like AMA.  Somebody requested AMA AVCHD earlier, this is a BIG request from our customers.

     

    Dave

  • Wed, Feb 16 2011 8:54 PM In reply to

    Re: Media Composer 5.5

    Thank you very much, Dave.

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  • Wed, Feb 16 2011 8:54 PM In reply to

    • Atomike
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    Re: Media Composer 5.5

    Luke Sacher:

    EricADK:

    Right now Apple is a PC with different OS that doesn't thread as well as Windows 7. The gap is no longer there. However the Mac supporters will not see that so the market is as you state.

    Everone I know who's had to deal with Windows 7 has told me that it's a nightmare. Hearsay only, but enough to make me stay away.

     

    You should talk with someone who has not used Apple products exclusively for their entire lives. Or maybe just someon who is knowledgable about computers. If you talk with a single person who has ever used Windows before, you would hear an opinion different than the one which keeps you away.

    Mac is simly a PC. With compatibility issues.

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  • Wed, Feb 16 2011 8:55 PM In reply to

    Re: Media Composer 5.5

    Luke Sacher:
    Everone I know who's had to deal with Windows 7 has told me that it's a nightmare

    I've been running MC on Win7-64 since May or so. Rock solid. I'll admit having tweaked Win7 so it almost looks like Windows 2000, turning off all the fancy stuff. I've also run MC on Snow Leopard, but that was on a laptop, for a total of 6 weeks or so. All very solid.

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  • Wed, Feb 16 2011 8:58 PM In reply to

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    BLKDOG:

    Just a personal observation here. I edit regularly in FCP and in Avid. I boot to a 32 bit OS for Avid and have a 64 bit platform for FCP. I honestly can't say that the performance difference is so great that I would have this visceral reaction to using 5.5 in a 32 bit environment. My sessions are just as fast in either platform and each has weaknesses that balance the other.

    Premier has, by far, the fastest performance but then you have to use their UI, which is a non-starter for me! ;o)

    Bottom line, for me, I am not really understanding the emotional response to the 32 bit OS.

    Booting up a Mac Pro Westmere in 32 bit running 10.6.6 makes strange things happen. And wasting a dozen or more hours talking to support over dongles and software authentication is just plain ludicrous. The upgrade instructions were nearly indecipherable and often contradictory. It should have been effortless.

    MC 5.5.2, OS 10.6.8, Mac Pro Westmere 12-core 2.66 6GB RAM 1TB HD, 4TB G-Speed eS RAID 0, 1TB Fantom GreenDrive Quad, Matrox MXO2 Mini, 2 LG Flatron 20... [view my complete system specs]
  • Wed, Feb 16 2011 9:01 PM In reply to

    Re: Media Composer 5.5

    Luke Sacher:

    EricADK:

    Right now Apple is a PC with different OS that doesn't thread as well as Windows 7. The gap is no longer there. However the Mac supporters will not see that so the market is as you state.

    Everone I know who's had to deal with Windows 7 has told me that it's a nightmare. Hearsay only, but enough to make me stay away.

    Good, a Mac v PC discussion.  I'm sure this won't be a pointless waste of time and through the rational application of logic we'll soon figure out which one is best.

    Or we could just go back to the subject of the thread and talk about MC 5.5.  You guys' call.

    ciao,
    Carl 

     

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    "There is hardly anything in the world that some man cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper, and the people who only consider the price are this man's lawful prey."  - John Ruskin (1819-1900)

     

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  • Wed, Feb 16 2011 9:01 PM In reply to

    Re: Media Composer 5.5

    W7 is the best OS ever created by Microsoft.

    W7 64bit.

    Now when MC will be a 64bit app under W7, this would be a dream come true.

    But there are things that must be fixed also.

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  • Wed, Feb 16 2011 9:17 PM In reply to

    Re: Media Composer 5.5

    Atomike:

    Luke Sacher:

    EricADK:

    Right now Apple is a PC with different OS that doesn't thread as well as Windows 7. The gap is no longer there. However the Mac supporters will not see that so the market is as you state.

    Everone I know who's had to deal with Windows 7 has told me that it's a nightmare. Hearsay only, but enough to make me stay away.

     

    You should talk with someone who has not used Apple products exclusively for their entire lives. Or maybe just someon who is knowledgable about computers. If you talk with a single person who has ever used Windows before, you would hear an opinion different than the one which keeps you away.

    Mac is simly a PC. With compatibility issues.

    To whom did you think I spoke when I was warned about Windows 7's core code problems? And who has time to learn the nuances of a new OS? We have to make something that people actually want to watch! Content is King, all else takes a back seat. And if you're spening all your time spinning propellors and chasing gremlins, you're left with no time for actually making anything really good. Take a look at most of what's running on cable these days and you'll see the proof. Tattoo parlors and chopper builders and ice road truckers, not James Burke and Kenneth Clarke.

    Just so you know, I've been using Avid exclusively since 1993. On Mac. Exclusively.

    Before that I was editing on a Montage. The same system that Coppola and Lumet pioneered. 27 hotrodded Beta Hi-Fi decks with identical footage all scrambling to queue up...

    Regarding compatibility issues- it's Avid that has the worst issues of all- I don't want to say that it's true, but facts are facts. Both CS5 and FCP are compatible with every BOB and hardware peripheral on the market today. Name me one PC native NLE or compositing software that can claim the same thing...

    MC 5.5.2, OS 10.6.8, Mac Pro Westmere 12-core 2.66 6GB RAM 1TB HD, 4TB G-Speed eS RAID 0, 1TB Fantom GreenDrive Quad, Matrox MXO2 Mini, 2 LG Flatron 20... [view my complete system specs]
  • Wed, Feb 16 2011 9:18 PM In reply to

    Re: Media Composer 5.5

    People, let's get on topic.

  • Wed, Feb 16 2011 9:19 PM In reply to

    Re: Media Composer 5.5

    camoscato:

    Luke Sacher:

    EricADK:

    Right now Apple is a PC with different OS that doesn't thread as well as Windows 7. The gap is no longer there. However the Mac supporters will not see that so the market is as you state.

    Everone I know who's had to deal with Windows 7 has told me that it's a nightmare. Hearsay only, but enough to make me stay away.

    Good, a Mac v PC discussion.  I'm sure this won't be a pointless waste of time and through the rational application of logic we'll soon figure out which one is best.

    Or we could just go back to the subject of the thread and talk about MC 5.5.  You guys' call.

    ciao,
    Carl 

     

    It's a valid discussion where compatibility with third party hardware is concerned.

    MC 5.5.2, OS 10.6.8, Mac Pro Westmere 12-core 2.66 6GB RAM 1TB HD, 4TB G-Speed eS RAID 0, 1TB Fantom GreenDrive Quad, Matrox MXO2 Mini, 2 LG Flatron 20... [view my complete system specs]
  • Wed, Feb 16 2011 9:22 PM In reply to

    • TVJohn
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    Re: Media Composer 5.5

    Please just take this to the mac side...

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  • Wed, Feb 16 2011 9:24 PM In reply to

    Re: Media Composer 5.5

    johnlucas88:

    People, let's get on topic.

    The topic is hardware compatibility, dongles that don't work, and 500 bucks spent for nothing on a box that is now useless.

    MC 5.5.2, OS 10.6.8, Mac Pro Westmere 12-core 2.66 6GB RAM 1TB HD, 4TB G-Speed eS RAID 0, 1TB Fantom GreenDrive Quad, Matrox MXO2 Mini, 2 LG Flatron 20... [view my complete system specs]
  • Wed, Feb 16 2011 9:26 PM In reply to

    • dreid
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    Re: Media Composer 5.5

    TVJohn:

    For me, discussions, conjecture, and buying on speculation and promises of features and performance have ended. I now require first hand, hands on experience to validate an investment.

    There was a time when the Avid name was enough to write a check, the last year has altered that process.

    Unfortunately.

     

    I could not agree more, this is a 100% correct statement and everyone knows it ... I remember as if it was yesterday the announcement of MC5 and all that it would bring, the widespread jubilation and hype, which I completely fell for, and then the smashing reality that I had fallen for a marketing ploy and in fact bought a lemon the likes of which has almost never been seen in the world of software ... I am never again going to fall for that one from Avid, and I am already going into 5.5 with complete skepticism - and my wallet closed tight.

    MC 8.5.3, DNxIO w/ 10.5.4, Win 7 Pro 64 bit SP1, Dell 7910, Dual 10 core Xeon 3.10, 128 GB DDR4 RAM, Quadro K5200, 1 TB SSD system drive, 1 TB SSD cache... [view my complete system specs]

    And back to a windowless room full of Avids he goes.

  • Wed, Feb 16 2011 9:38 PM In reply to

    • BLKDOG
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    Re: Media Composer 5.5

    Hi Luke,

    Sorry to hear you are having so much trouble. I am not seeing the same on my Westmere. Boots into 32 bit pretty cleanly for my dongle and I really haven't seen a hiccup.

    It make me think though; I have a harpertown running 10.6.6 and MC 5.0.3.7 as well. Not sure what the difference would be in the OS once you've booted into the 32 bit kernel, I would think it would be the same process and calls as the harpertown so I am wondering what may be causing the roadblocks you are seeing.

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