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  • Thu, Sep 2 2010 9:52 PM In reply to

    Re: 24 fps Workflow

    MC has so far not let me import any footage that is at a different frame rate or "field rate" as the project. So far I've had more luck with After Effects doing it.....which is an extra step I'm not enthused about.

    Freelance producer/editor/videographer, Colton Media Productions
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  • Thu, Sep 2 2010 10:38 PM In reply to

    • Cagey
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    Re: 24 fps Workflow

    ColtonVideography:

    MC has so far not let me import any footage that is at a different frame rate or "field rate" as the project. So far I've had more luck with After Effects doing it.....which is an extra step I'm not enthused about.

    To import for your slo-mo effect try typing "IgnoreQTRate True" in the console before you import.  This tells MC to bring in each frame 1:1 and ignore the embedded frame rate metadata.

     

    If you are shooting with an AVCHD camera and are unable to import directly into a 23.976 project, take a look at Cineform Neo HD.  It will let you extract the pulldown frames during conversion so that you can import directly into a 23.976 project.  Otherwise you will need to use a 29.97 project.  They have a fully working demo.

    You can also import your footage into the correct project type and then open those bins in other projects.  That is how you can use your 29.97 footage (23.976 with pulldown frames) in a 23.976 project as is.

    Neo HD also has the really cool tool called FirstLight for adjusting everything before you import.  Check out this tutorial: http://vimeo.com/groups/8447/videos/11886542

    Keith

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  • Thu, Sep 2 2010 10:39 PM In reply to

    Re: 24 fps Workflow

    No matter what I do I can't get Avid to import footage that is a different frame rate than the project. How do I do it?

    Freelance producer/editor/videographer, Colton Media Productions
    Chief Editor of STP, CTV11

    Specs: MC5.0.3 | AMD Phenom IIx6 1055T Processor (Six cores @ 2.8 GHz, 64-bit) | 8 GB DDR3 RAM | ATI Radeon HD5670 | Windows 7 Pro | After Effects CS4 | Multiple media hard drives

  • Thu, Sep 2 2010 10:47 PM In reply to

    Re: 24 fps Workflow

    I can't even get MC to import footage whose frame rate is different from the project's....

    Freelance producer/editor/videographer, Colton Media Productions
    Chief Editor of STP, CTV11

    Specs: MC5.0.3 | AMD Phenom IIx6 1055T Processor (Six cores @ 2.8 GHz, 64-bit) | 8 GB DDR3 RAM | ATI Radeon HD5670 | Windows 7 Pro | After Effects CS4 | Multiple media hard drives

  • Thu, Sep 2 2010 11:15 PM In reply to

    Re: 24 fps Workflow

    Sorry for the triple post. My internet connection was being erratic. 

    So apparently the camera is actually recording 1080p23.98 wrapped in a 60i wrapper, which is done by adding pulldown into the 1080p24 and storing it as 1080i59.94. Quite possibly the weirdest phenomenon ever. Blame Panasonic.

    So to get it back to 1080p24, I should start a 1080p24 project, type "Ignore QTRate True" into the console, import the footage, and set the field motion attribute to 2:3 Pulldown? I just tried that, and Avid still said "The edit rate of the clip (29.97) does not match the project edit rate (24)."

    Freelance producer/editor/videographer, Colton Media Productions
    Chief Editor of STP, CTV11

    Specs: MC5.0.3 | AMD Phenom IIx6 1055T Processor (Six cores @ 2.8 GHz, 64-bit) | 8 GB DDR3 RAM | ATI Radeon HD5670 | Windows 7 Pro | After Effects CS4 | Multiple media hard drives

  • Thu, Sep 2 2010 11:25 PM In reply to

    Re: 24 fps Workflow

    I just tried importing the 1080i59.94 footage into a project of the same, opening the bin in a 1080p24 project, and setting its field motion to 2:3 Film. I put it in a sequence, and it doesn't have any interlacing artifacts, but every 4 frames there is a duplicate frame. I'm thoroughly confused.

    Freelance producer/editor/videographer, Colton Media Productions
    Chief Editor of STP, CTV11

    Specs: MC5.0.3 | AMD Phenom IIx6 1055T Processor (Six cores @ 2.8 GHz, 64-bit) | 8 GB DDR3 RAM | ATI Radeon HD5670 | Windows 7 Pro | After Effects CS4 | Multiple media hard drives

  • Thu, Sep 2 2010 11:32 PM In reply to

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    Re: 24 fps Workflow

    ColtonVideography:
    Blame Panasonic

    Which camera are you using?  I use a P2 based system and have no problem with pulling in overcranked footage.

     

    Dave

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  • Thu, Sep 2 2010 11:44 PM In reply to

    Re: 24 fps Workflow

    I'm testing a GH1 to see if I'll use it. The 720p60 is actually no longer a problem. The problem is removing the pulldown from the 1080i59.94 footage.

    Freelance producer/editor/videographer, Colton Media Productions
    Chief Editor of STP, CTV11

    Specs: MC5.0.3 | AMD Phenom IIx6 1055T Processor (Six cores @ 2.8 GHz, 64-bit) | 8 GB DDR3 RAM | ATI Radeon HD5670 | Windows 7 Pro | After Effects CS4 | Multiple media hard drives

  • Fri, Sep 3 2010 12:09 AM In reply to

    • lalittle
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    Re: 24 fps Workflow

    ColtonVideography:

    I'm testing a GH1 to see if I'll use it. The 720p60 is actually no longer a problem.

    Could you give some details of how you solved the issue?  What did you do different that now allows you to import the footage without getting the "framerate does not match" error?

    Thanks,

    Larry

  • Fri, Sep 3 2010 12:14 AM In reply to

    Re: 24 fps Workflow

    I started the project as 720p60 haha. Still no workflow for using the framerate for slowmo, other than using After Effects.

    Freelance producer/editor/videographer, Colton Media Productions
    Chief Editor of STP, CTV11

    Specs: MC5.0.3 | AMD Phenom IIx6 1055T Processor (Six cores @ 2.8 GHz, 64-bit) | 8 GB DDR3 RAM | ATI Radeon HD5670 | Windows 7 Pro | After Effects CS4 | Multiple media hard drives

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