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  • Tue, Oct 19 2010 11:10 PM In reply to

    • Haze
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    Re: AVID VS FCP

    jeando:
    I'm not working for apple

     I hope not.  I hope that things aren't so bad at Apple that the marketing team must resort to an incompetent shill to hype their aging editor.  

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  • Wed, Oct 20 2010 12:44 AM In reply to

    Re: AVID VS FCP

    Jayanta:

    [Yes I am glad that I learned Adobe Premier 6 to specificaly to Edit and Loop Audio because at that time it was (and still now) more efficiant at editing and looping Audio. Otherwise I woud not have been an Editor.

    Hi Jayanta, what do you mean by looping audio? I don't know Premiere 6, but when I need to make a loop of ambience, I usually just edit my clip a bunch of times and then drop a Reverse AudioSuite effect on every other clip to create a quick loop that's trimmable, if I want. What could be easier, I wonder?

     

     

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  • Wed, Oct 20 2010 1:01 AM In reply to

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    Re: AVID VS FCP

    luca.mg:

    The trial version does not include Boris Continuum Complete and AvidFX....

    This is VERY true.  Adding what you get with the bundle- Avid is absolutely competitive with FCP price wise.  Personally, I've found the effects that FCP supplies to be too much wedding video like.  But that probably just personal preferance.

     

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  • Wed, Oct 20 2010 6:31 AM In reply to

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    Re: AVID VS FCP

    berga:

    I thougt that every studio have at least one license of Adobe Premiere which they got then they bougth After Effects and Photoshop.

    Or more than one license of Adobe Premiere. The BBC has selected Adobe Creative Suite Production Premium as its preferred solution for PC-based non-linear editing and post-production. That's high-end broadcast!

    http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/200704/041607BBC.html

     

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  • Wed, Oct 20 2010 9:03 AM In reply to

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    Re: AVID VS FCP

    Telegram!:
    Hi Jayanta, what do you mean by looping audio?

    We have here what we call Loop Song(usually a ballad or Story which consist of numerous stanza or Paragraphs and can run for 20 minutes or more). In this case usually a Prelude+Song+Interlude and a Postlude(sic) is recorded with all the accompaniment. One then lengthens this piece of music by editing and repeating the Song+Interlude   portion to the required Number of stanzas.

     

    This can be very easily and more precisely acomplished in Adobe Premier as it offers sample based editing of Audio tracks unlike Avid's frame based Editing. Primier also offered multitrack audio at that time unlike Sound forge etc. so it was easy to accurately lineup the elements in different tracks.

     

    All the Multitrack Audio Interface at thet time were boundup with expencive hardware unlike Premier for which you only needed a good stereo sound card like the "Sound blaster live value".

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  • Wed, Oct 20 2010 3:48 PM In reply to

    Re: AVID VS FCP

    Re this comment: FCP or AVID... is less of a big choice to make... it's probably more about... Editing well vs. Editing poorly... no matter the application anyone chooses.

    I couldn't agree more...HOWEVER!...with the continuing proliferation & evolution of YouTube & the like, we are seeing excessive amounts of the "editing poorly" styles that is quickly becoming the new "standard-of-expectation" when it comes to quality of presentation. The "young lions & lionesses" of video editing are throwing out much of the time-tested standards of "editing well" and replacing that with what many old-timers might call "modern-age hacking!" GET USED TO IT! As Gordon Gekko said in the original movie "Wall Street," "I'm telling you pal...We're moving to a new age."

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  • Wed, Oct 20 2010 6:39 PM In reply to

    Re: AVID VS FCP

    Kenton.VanNatten:
    The best thing that these students can do is learn to edit and not worry about which tool they have available to them.

    Absolutely!   When I went to film school back in the days of the dinosaurs, I learned to edit by cutting film on an upright Moviola.  We concentrated on the cuts, not the splices!   Learning an edit system without learning editing is like trying to become a writer by learning how to type!

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  • Wed, Oct 20 2010 9:38 PM In reply to

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    Re: AVID VS FCP

    Terry Snyder:

    Kenton.VanNatten:
    The best thing that these students can do is learn to edit and not worry about which tool they have available to them.

    Absolutely!   When I went to film school back in the days of the dinosaurs, I learned to edit by cutting film on an upright Moviola.  We concentrated on the cuts, not the splices!   Learning an edit system without learning editing is like trying to become a writer by learning how to type!

    Yes

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  • Thu, Oct 21 2010 11:07 PM In reply to

    Re: AVID VS FCP

    luca.mg:
    Cracked copies of FinalCut have been available for download over the P2P networks ever since it came out, and therefore the software is widespread among dishonest people and pennyless students;

     

    You can get a cracked copy of MC 3, 4 and 5 just as easily.

  • Thu, Oct 21 2010 11:15 PM In reply to

    Re: AVID VS FCP

    John Fielding:

    You can get a cracked copy of MC 3, 4 and 5 just as easily.

    And if recent history on this topic is correct, you will have nothing but problems with a cracked MC. We strongly discourage our user base from participating in these illegal activities. And if you do, please do not have the audacity to come here for help.

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  • Thu, Oct 21 2010 11:54 PM In reply to

    Re: AVID VS FCP

    Larry Rubin:
    And if you do, please do not have the audacity to come here for help.

     

    Sorry... didn't mean to offend. Just pointing out that Avid shares the same boat with Apple in regards to pirated software. It is by no means unique to Apple as the post seems to suggested.

  • Fri, Oct 22 2010 12:52 AM In reply to

    Re: AVID VS FCP

    No offense taken. And to clarify, I was using "you" in the rhetorical sense, not aimed at you personally John, as in "you can't fight city hall".

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  • Fri, Oct 22 2010 3:38 AM In reply to

    Re: AVID VS FCP

    and you work for city hall....almost. well you record their stuff.

  • Fri, Oct 22 2010 5:07 AM In reply to

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    Re: AVID VS FCP

    John Fielding:
    Just pointing out that Avid shares the same boat with Apple in regards to pirated software.
    Not exactly: Final Cut has been available for "free" since the beginning, in the early 2000s, while cracked Avid software has been available from the late 2000s, roughly 5 years of wild spreading of the Apple's editor, and I wonder if the weaker protection of Media Composer is a company "strategy" to be3tter compete with Apple.

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  • Fri, Oct 22 2010 7:30 AM In reply to

    Re: AVID VS FCP

    ohhh boy ohhh boy, i own a production house working with avid media composer and also work in a tv broadcasting local station well one of the most important here in Mexico working with final cut pro, and let me tell you guys that final cut is making me losing more time every time that i have to make a small decision in my editing and have to render all over again, Avid is for me more reliable, etc. but the best nle software is the one you know the most. for me the best nle is avid media composer periot

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