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  • Mon, Apr 29 2024 2:16 PM In reply to

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    Re: Any updates from NAB?

    Oh, the horror etc.:
    A quick question on scriptsync and fiction. I often use scriptsync for fiction projects and it is a great way to go. Not talking documentary here but fiction use are there any updates in scriptsync. Does anyone forsee a day when I can lasso all my multi cam and single camera clips wild track etc. and drop them on a script page and wallah it is done for you or just about? Will AI revolutionize scriptsync prep etc or can we expect it to roughly remain as it is. I have watched the recent videos and the advances in documentary workflow.

    I don't know about Scriptsync, as I say I've never used it nor do I work in drama; but you can moreorless do that right now in DR; without any Ultimate subscription. Much in the way I talked of subtitles; you can right click any shot, sequence whatever; and ask it to transcibe audio. The generated text then is completely clickable and timecoded; click on a word and it takes you to that point in the shot or sequence; you can copy, paste export too for printing off or PDFs/Word docs. I don't know whether it has the full power of Scriptsync; nor have I tried it with multicam; but it saves using a transcription service, which is normally done in documentary.

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  • Mon, Apr 29 2024 3:42 PM In reply to

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    If I was the owner of a transcription service I would certainly be looking for a way out right around now. I remember back in the day exporting out long stringouts or even VHSs to send to cityscripts or whoever. That's one segment that won't be making a comeback I should think. It's only a matter of time before it masters accents, dialects, whatever else. I'd imagine 95% of that work can now be done by a bot. Bit sad really, you always hear that AI is not going to take jobs but just make people better/more productive at their jobs but yeah, it's definitely taking jobs. 

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  • Mon, Apr 29 2024 3:52 PM In reply to

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    Re: Any updates from NAB?

    ripvanmarlowe:
    Bit sad really, you always hear that AI is not going to take jobs but just make people better/more productive at their jobs but yeah, it's definitely taking jobs. 

    It's not really doing away with jobs, Andi. It's already all non-human AI. The overwhelmingly most popular choice where I often work nowadays is Trint (https://trint.com/). Unfortuately the real humans are long gone anyway. At least this is under our control for a short while again. And when you're not on a big TV show, working on your own; it's godsend and free!

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  • Mon, Apr 29 2024 4:02 PM In reply to

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    Re: Any updates from NAB?

    Robert Martindale:

    .....ah....that makes sense...did we all sing kumbayha that day?  is there a club of the Oct 13, 2005 folks?

    I feel I should just point out too, Robert; I was here in 2005 and before too; somehow, maybe because I'm not a teacher's pet, I never got one of those 'Founding' member badges neither; and somehow I've lost over 5 years. lol Confused

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  • Mon, Apr 29 2024 4:04 PM In reply to

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    To be fair, in my mind, it's still 2007 and there is a room full of people with typrwriters, smoking, wearing Trilbys and talking like they're in His Girl Friday, producing reams and reams of transcripts. I have no idea what that industry is like any more. So you're right, I'm probably feeling sorry for an industry that went the way of the dodo years ago. I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords!

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  • Mon, Apr 29 2024 4:59 PM In reply to

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    We've used Rev for transcripts for quite a long time, but yeah, the automated transcribing in DR (and PP) has done away with a lot of that. However, per the point, it's not perfectly accurate either in the edit program OR using the AI turnaround from the service, and frequently needs SOME level of editability. Thus, companies like REV have a "premium" transcription service that still uses good 'ole manual labor.

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  • Mon, Apr 29 2024 5:47 PM In reply to

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    Re: Any updates from NAB?

    Jason Sedmak:
    Thus, companies like REV have a "premium" transcription service that still uses good 'ole manual labor.

    I think the same with Trint, Jason; however it's rarely necessary not for EP's and their paper edits. It's the same with all the translation services when I looking to get this Italian thing going. Whether AI or human it wasn't cheap for what I need. I came across this new AI stuff, while I was messing with colour in DR; and then a bit of a follow up on YT and bingo, free and quick; I should RTFM more, perhaps... Geeked

    What's was that saying, Andi? About a putting a thousand monkeys to work for a thousand years on typewriters and all that... we'll all be out of jobs one day. I saw some cool 'dudes' on YT a while back - you know, reversed baseball caps and all; letting PP do their work for them; "Far out dude!" and all that - I just thought 'bring it on' then I can sit there, coffee and feet up, getting paid to be the organ grinder, who does nothing... of course it may not end that well, at all; but I'll be out of it hopefully by then Hmm

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  • Mon, Apr 29 2024 6:10 PM In reply to

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    Absolutely, I plan to be long gone (not dead, just not working in TV!) by the time everything is automated. I do feel a bit sorry for younger people getting in to the industry though. I was a supervisor at a post house for a lot of my career and those were really fun times. Very hands on and "real". Plugging in cables on the patch bay, navigating ridiculous VTR menus, last minute copyruns for programs that were on air that evening, figuring out why your 3rd deck wasn't getting the right reference etc. It felt way more like a proper job. Now when I go in to machine rooms, it's just a bunch of kids staring at a monitor and copying files. Where's the fun in that?! Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go and shake my fist at some children playing on my lawn! Ba!

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    Cut it out you guys; you just gave me motion memory of lacing up a 2" quad machine...
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  • Mon, Apr 29 2024 6:40 PM In reply to

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    Re: Any updates from NAB?

    David Yardley:
    Cut it out you guys; you just gave me motion memory of lacing up a 2" quad machine...

    Did you have a moustache then too, David? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHDU1wXw1sU Wink

    I just remember desperately seardhing for that 1 frame 16mm trim; I can still perfectly visualise a 96 frame cross dissolve from only 2 converging chinagraph lines; I just think they haven't noticed I'm still around sometimes Sleep

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    Re: Any updates from NAB?

    We are certainly showing our ages! I've made several of these "Reel-Time" clocks. And I still have a moustache!

     


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  • Mon, Apr 29 2024 9:59 PM In reply to

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    Love this! A stack of betacams as a monitor stand doesn't quite have the same elegance. An FCP 7 user manual makes an excellent doorstop though!

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  • Tue, Apr 30 2024 11:11 AM In reply to

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    Re: Any updates from NAB?

    Editmvp:

    We are certainly showing our ages! I've made several of these "Reel-Time" clocks. And I still have a moustache!

     

    Excellent! And those 'taches are coing back into fashion, my friend. Time was in facilities you could really trust a man with oneWink

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