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  • Wed, Oct 5 2022 5:54 PM

    • Sims Carter
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    Please help - Building a PC for AVID!

    I am an editor/VFX artist/filmmaker… but not super tech savvy, so I would love your help/advice on building out a new PC computer for an updated version of Avid before I pull the trigger on it. (This is LONG OVERDUE as I’m still on Avid 7, Windows 7, haha).

    So, the goal here is to build an "ALL-IN-ONE INDIE FILMMAKER POST-PRODUCTION MACHINE" if that's possible. The less I have to depend on other people in post with this system, the better. A PROSUMER system that leans more professional (as close as we can get to pro for the money). Trying to keep the price well under $10k all-in (and in the $6k-$7k range with the computer/monitors.)

    I will primarily be using the system to cut independent feature films & shorts (on the latest version of AVID MC) and doing visual effects and online/color correction for those films. Most films will be cut offline with proxies (but I would love the ability to finish them and online to either 2k or 4k, if possible... so I don't have to depend too heavily on others to help). Other programs I’ll be running are DiVinci and After Effects (dealing with 4k files, occasionally files as large as 8k), along with various 3D programs (such as Cinema 4D, Blender, etc)

    My question is:  Will these specs below be able to run everything and do what I need it to do? Would you add or change anything? Any additional connections/ports you would add?

    Here’s the system I’ve put together so far (built via Puget Systems):

    Intel Core Z690 D5 ATX (Platform)

    Asus ProArt X670E-Creator WiFi (Motherboard) 

    Intel Core i9 13900K 3.0GHz 24 Core 36MB 125W  (CPU)

    2 x DDR5-4800 32GB (Ram) 

    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti 24GB Open Air (Video Card) 

    Onboard Sound (Sound Card) 

    Integrated WiFi+Bluetooth (Networking) 

    Samsung 870 EVO 1TB SATA3 2.5inch SSD (Hard Drive) Additional Information: Primary drive. OS and Apps Samsung 980 Pro 1TB Gen4 M.2 SSD (Hard Drive) Additional Information: Secondary drive. Working Drive 

    Fractal Design Define 7 (Case) 

    Super Flower LEADEX Platinum 850W (Power Supply) 

    Noctua NH-U12A (CPU Cooling)

    Case Fans Upgrade Kit (PWM Ramping) (Additional Cooling) 

    Windows 11 Pro 64-bit (Operating System)

     

    Thank you in advance for your help.

    Windows 11 Pro 64-bit, Media Composer 2022.12, SYSTEM CORE: Intel Core Z690 D5 ATX, Asus ProArt Z690-Creator WiFi, Intel Core i9 13900K 3.0GHz 24 Core... [view my complete system specs]
  • Thu, Oct 6 2022 12:41 AM In reply to

    • Sims Carter
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    Re: ADVICE on this NEW COMPUTER BUILD for FEATURE POST-PRODUCTION?

    ...OR let me know if there is a better spot to post this?

    Windows 11 Pro 64-bit, Media Composer 2022.12, SYSTEM CORE: Intel Core Z690 D5 ATX, Asus ProArt Z690-Creator WiFi, Intel Core i9 13900K 3.0GHz 24 Core... [view my complete system specs]
  • Thu, Oct 6 2022 11:47 AM In reply to

    • TVJohn
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    Re: ADVICE on this NEW COMPUTER BUILD for FEATURE POST-PRODUCTION?

    Most advise can be offered on established hardware with some track record. whilst new and latest is more, "no reason why it should not work".

    Dell Display U2713HM(2560x1440), AMD FX8350 8core, AMD 990FX mobo, 32gig-DDR3-1600, GTX 3060Ti, Audigy2zs, 1TB SSD system drive, 2TB SATA render, 8TB SATA... [view my complete system specs]

    Using MC 23.12. Win 22H2  Avid FX6.4, Vegas Pro 20/ DVD Architect 6pro, DVDit6.4proHD, CCE Basic, TmpGe Express4, TmpGe Authoring Works 4, DVDLab-Studio. Sony EX-1R, Canon XH-A1, GL2, GL1, Canon EOS 60D

  • Thu, Oct 6 2022 1:43 PM In reply to

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    Re: Please help - Building a PC for AVID!

    New CPU gen, first DDR5 gen. I assume AMD will publish new AGESA version in very short time at least to improve performance. If you have problems, it can be difficult to decide if its the build or the plattform.

    If you can wait, don't buy now. Let other user find problems.

    Intel will launch a new CPU gen at the end of this month.

     

    Back to the build:

    Are 64 GB RAM enough? I would suggest 128 GB for 4K or 8K. DDR5-5200 is the standard for Zen4 with DDR5-6000 as the sweet spot.

     

    AMD allows the 7950X up to 230W. If you are having high CPU load, even the NH-D15 will be challenged.

    To keep the temps downs and be more efficient, you can consider UV.

     

    MC 2019.12 (Win 10 1909) custom Workstation: AMD Threadripper 3960X (NH-U14S TR4-SP3 + NF-A15), ASUS TRX40-E Gaming, 64GB DDR4-3200 Corsair, MSI RTX 2070... [view my complete system specs]
  • Thu, Oct 6 2022 6:29 PM In reply to

    Re: Please help - Building a PC for AVID!

    I'd recommend buyning a referbed HP Z workstation. They are used a lot in the corperate world and retired withput ever doing much work.

    Brillaint work horses and Avid supported.

    HP Z840 3.1GHZ 20cores 128GB RAM M4000 GPU 1TB NVMe drive HP Z book 17 G2 2.7GHZ Quad core 32GB RAM Nvidia K3100M 1TB SSD drive ACI Moderator. I'm... [view my complete system specs]

     

    Broadcast & Post Production Consultant / Trainer  Avid Certified Instructor VET (Retired Early 2022)

     

    Still offering training and support for: QC/QAR Training - Understanding Digital Media - Advanced Files * Compression - Avid Ingest - PSE fixing courses and more.

    Mainly delivered remotely via zoom but onsite possible.

     

    T 07581 201248 | E [email protected]

     

  • Fri, Oct 7 2022 12:26 AM In reply to

    • TVJohn
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    Re: Please help - Building a PC for AVID!

    Hi Pat, I had to smile. Sort of like Dad talking his son out of a Corvette into a Camry...Smile

    Dell Display U2713HM(2560x1440), AMD FX8350 8core, AMD 990FX mobo, 32gig-DDR3-1600, GTX 3060Ti, Audigy2zs, 1TB SSD system drive, 2TB SATA render, 8TB SATA... [view my complete system specs]

    Using MC 23.12. Win 22H2  Avid FX6.4, Vegas Pro 20/ DVD Architect 6pro, DVDit6.4proHD, CCE Basic, TmpGe Express4, TmpGe Authoring Works 4, DVDLab-Studio. Sony EX-1R, Canon XH-A1, GL2, GL1, Canon EOS 60D

  • Fri, Oct 7 2022 5:56 PM In reply to

    • scocklin
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    Re: Please help - Building a PC for AVID!

    Pat Horridge:

    I'd recommend buyning a referbed HP Z workstation. They are used a lot in the corperate world and retired withput ever doing much work.

    Brillaint work horses and Avid supported.

     

    I couldn't agree more.  

     

    HP-Z6-G4 Workstation, 1-Xeon 4216 16 core processor, 64GB 2933MHz DDR4 ECC Memory, P4000 GPU, 512GB NVMe 1TB NVMe, Thunderbolt 3 controller, 1 Blackmagic... [view my complete system specs]
  • Fri, Oct 7 2022 6:48 PM In reply to

    • Sims Carter
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    Re: Please help - Building a PC for AVID!

    Thank you everyone for your input. Where specifically would you recemmend buying a referbed HP Z workstation?

    Windows 11 Pro 64-bit, Media Composer 2022.12, SYSTEM CORE: Intel Core Z690 D5 ATX, Asus ProArt Z690-Creator WiFi, Intel Core i9 13900K 3.0GHz 24 Core... [view my complete system specs]
  • Fri, Oct 7 2022 10:03 PM In reply to

    Re: Please help - Building a PC for AVID!

    In the UK there are a number of dealers selling refurbed systems. Most allow you to configure the setup you want and build to order.

    I'm currently running a very nice HP Z 840 machine for much less than a new system.

     

    HP Z840 3.1GHZ 20cores 128GB RAM M4000 GPU 1TB NVMe drive HP Z book 17 G2 2.7GHZ Quad core 32GB RAM Nvidia K3100M 1TB SSD drive ACI Moderator. I'm... [view my complete system specs]

     

    Broadcast & Post Production Consultant / Trainer  Avid Certified Instructor VET (Retired Early 2022)

     

    Still offering training and support for: QC/QAR Training - Understanding Digital Media - Advanced Files * Compression - Avid Ingest - PSE fixing courses and more.

    Mainly delivered remotely via zoom but onsite possible.

     

    T 07581 201248 | E [email protected]

     

  • Fri, Oct 7 2022 11:15 PM In reply to

    • Sims Carter
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    Re: Please help - Building a PC for AVID!

    Nice! Any suggestions for dealers selling refurbed systems in the U.S.?

    Windows 11 Pro 64-bit, Media Composer 2022.12, SYSTEM CORE: Intel Core Z690 D5 ATX, Asus ProArt Z690-Creator WiFi, Intel Core i9 13900K 3.0GHz 24 Core... [view my complete system specs]
  • Fri, Oct 7 2022 11:52 PM In reply to

    • jwrl
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    Re: Please help - Building a PC for AVID!

    Sims Carter:
    Any suggestions for dealers selling refurbed systems in the U.S.?
    I think that Google would be your friend here.  They're available world wide as far as I'm aware.

    MC 7.0.4 - Asus P6T Deluxe V2 mobo - Intel i7 920 2.66GHz - Windows 7 Ult64 SP1 - nVidia Quadro FX 1800 - 16 Gbyte low latency DDR3 RAM - Internal 8 Tb... [view my complete system specs]
  • Sat, Oct 8 2022 12:06 AM In reply to

    • Sims Carter
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    Re: Please help - Building a PC for AVID!

    Of course. To clarify, I'm asking for suggestions of favorite spots that people have bought them from with good prices/buying experience that let you specifically configure the setup you want to build.  Thanks.

    Windows 11 Pro 64-bit, Media Composer 2022.12, SYSTEM CORE: Intel Core Z690 D5 ATX, Asus ProArt Z690-Creator WiFi, Intel Core i9 13900K 3.0GHz 24 Core... [view my complete system specs]
  • Sat, Oct 8 2022 2:37 PM In reply to

    Re: Please help - Building a PC for AVID!

    hp workstations are a great choice, if you can get one for a reasonable price.

    I have an old z800 that is now a server, and a z820 that is my assistant station, but it runs just fine if i need a road machine.

    My main box is home made, and closing in on 4 years now i think. 

    If you want to build yourself a box, the best piece of advice I can give is study very carefully the motherboard, and the PCI slot number and configuration.  Most gaming motherboards are very limited in that area, as they are built for a graphics card, and not much more.

    If you need an I/o card, and a graphics card, which may or maynot take up two slots, and a 10 g card, as well as anything else you are thinking of throwing in there, make sure you have the slots, and the Lanes to accomodate your needs.

    Quite often a slot is 8x unless you are using another slot, then it becomes 4x. (just an example...but you get the idea)

    The beauty of the workstations is you get lots of slots, and much less restrictions from lanes, although on my z820, those restrictions are still there on atleast 1 slot.

    In other words, map out your needs carefully before buying and building.

    Current Avid-Z390 Win 10 Intel i9 64gig ram Nvidia A5000 MC current level - Win 10 64 Gig Ram [view my complete system specs]
  • Tue, Oct 18 2022 8:55 PM In reply to

    • oklaroma
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    Re: Please help - Building a PC for AVID!

    I found success going directly through HP at the HP Business Outlet: https://www.hp.com/us-en/sbso/buspurchase_refurbished.html

     

    A few years ago I bought a z8g4 workstation through the HPBO and it's been a workhorse. Even though these systems come pre-configured, if you can find a robust base you can upgrade and build out as necessary to fit within Avid specs. Also, if you're concerned about buying refurb, you can upgrade to the 3/3/3 HP Warranty.

  • Thu, Oct 20 2022 6:59 AM In reply to

    • luca.mg
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    Re: Please help - Building a PC for AVID!

    AMD used to be trouboesome with MC, don't know if this still holds true, since I see many forum members with AMD systems in their signature. In order to save the most money study an Avid certified system and build a box with the same chipset, CPU, and GPU. Or get a refurbished HP workstation.

    Symphony 21.9, BM Intensity Pro 4k, Windows 10, i7-5930K, 32 GB ram, Quadro K620 [view my complete system specs]

    peace luca

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