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  • Mon, Apr 11 2022 10:20 PM

    Native MC for Apple Silicon

    Hi guys,

    I ask this just for curiosity and to know about some update. Rosetta version is gorgeous, but when we will see a native version of MC for Apple Silicons? Are there any news about that? Is confirmed, as for the latest statement, during 2022?

    thank you

     

  • Wed, Apr 13 2022 2:39 PM In reply to

    Re: Native MC for Apple Silicon

    Hello David, 

    I couldn't find anything official just yet, Might be best to EM a customer advocate like Chris or Raff, but unsure how much they can reveal Wink

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    Also I wonder how much better a native version will be - will it make a big difference on performance? I guess so but have no idea - I've never owned a mac. 

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  • Mon, Sep 5 2022 7:53 PM In reply to

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    Re: Native MC for Apple Silicon

    Media composer rarely taxes over 50% of the cpu in the current version on a m1max. It only maxes out when transcoding to dnxhr so I guess there is room for improvement for a native version on real-time playback and renders. 2022.7 is pretty stable, a gain in performance and export times and a decent titler would be welcomed. Is native around the corner?

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  • Fri, Sep 9 2022 9:48 AM In reply to

    Re: Native MC for Apple Silicon

    nicov:

    Media composer rarely taxes over 50% of the cpu in the current version on a m1max. It only maxes out when transcoding to dnxhr so I guess there is room for improvement for a native version on real-time playback and renders. 2022.7 is pretty stable, a gain in performance and export times and a decent titler would be welcomed. Is native around the corner?

    Is this considering other factors? Often I find the bottleneck to be networking or the drives.

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  • Mon, Sep 12 2022 3:44 PM In reply to

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    Re: Native MC for Apple Silicon

    Drive is a sabrent xtrm-q 8To with 2700mbps in reads and writes.. Other softwares take full benefit of the same congiguration, an M1max chip with 64gb ram...

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  • Mon, Sep 12 2022 5:21 PM In reply to

    Re: Native MC for Apple Silicon

    Its not rocket science that non native code isn't going to be as efficient.

    I have no idea how much work it is to convert the current MC code to native M1 code and if AVid can afford to now have 3 different versions of code in development ( PC, Intel Mac and M1 Mac)

    As they have a stable working version I'd expect them to not move the Mac code to native until they drop the Intel Mac code.

    So a way off. But I'm not priviy to the Avid development so who knows. As a PC user it erks me to know development is being slowed by having to code for a new platform. I'm sure Mac users have the opposite view.

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  • Tue, Sep 13 2022 6:21 PM In reply to

    Re: Native MC for Apple Silicon

    Can anyone running Avid on Apple Silicon tell me it's actually stable? We have been trying to and stable is not how I would describe it. We're trying to source Intel systems because of how bad it's been.

  • Tue, Sep 13 2022 9:10 PM In reply to

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    Re: Native MC for Apple Silicon

    Pat Horridge:

    Its not rocket science that non native code isn't going to be as efficient.

    I have no idea how much work it is to convert the current MC code to native M1 code and if AVid can afford to now have 3 different versions of code in development ( PC, Intel Mac and M1 Mac)

    As they have a stable working version I'd expect them to not move the Mac code to native until they drop the Intel Mac code.

    Resolve had native M1 support almost from day one, plus the all those current platforms, as well as Linux. I'm quite interested in Silicon and it's possibilities. Having just, I have to say reluctantly renewed my Avid support, for a further year, I will only take a serious interest in Mac when and if Avid support it properly, or I decide not to renew any further.

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  • Wed, Sep 14 2022 8:04 PM In reply to

    Re: Native MC for Apple Silicon

    no. im strugging two days now with a project i took home cause i thought my m1pro macbook is faster then the old windows workstation at the studio.. cause with fcpx and resolve the computer destroys everything... MC sadly is crashing all the time

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  • Thu, Sep 15 2022 9:53 PM In reply to

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    Re: Native MC for Apple Silicon

    It is not a stable versión. 22.8

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  • Thu, Sep 15 2022 10:05 PM In reply to

    Re: Native MC for Apple Silicon

    is that a wish or is it available somewhere?

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  • Fri, Sep 16 2022 1:37 AM In reply to

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    Re: Native MC for Apple Silicon

    Pretty stable here on a M1max 64gb as long as titler+ is not involved. I've been editing a doc for 8 weeks and it crashed once every 1-2 day.. MC2021.12 on an Intel Mac doesn't feel more stable to me. What I noticed is when I tried to work on the project at home using full screen playback with a multiple screen configuration instead of an IO box it was near unusable and crashed all the time. The project was UHD and all footage was transcoded to DNxHR. Decent performance overall but I could have used a bit more real-time playback for compositing. Native apple silicon was sheduled for 2022 if I remember correctly, maybe someone from avid could chime in and give us and updated timeframe...

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  • Fri, Sep 16 2022 9:30 AM In reply to

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    Re: Native MC for Apple Silicon

    theschnitt_de:
    .. cause with fcpx and resolve the computer destroys everything...

    That's slight hyperbole, with Resolve big powerful RTX Nvidia gpu cards still rule the roost, when it comes to complex colour and online work. Nonetheless I am very interested in the possibilities of professional M2 and beyond in the Mac Studio form factor.

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  • Fri, Sep 16 2022 12:38 PM In reply to

    Re: Native MC for Apple Silicon

    nicov:

    as long as titler+ is not involved.

    oha! didnt know that that could be an issue. will try to replace titles. i already saw that they are kind of hard to the hardware.

     

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  • Fri, Sep 16 2022 12:43 PM In reply to

    Re: Native MC for Apple Silicon

    yes of course not comparing it to true workstations, but the kind of projects (i only edit and CC) that smallest laptop of the m1pro line up was able to keep up with, impressed me. i dont see this performance boost in avid. 

    i graded a 45 min tv show in resolve HD with decent amount of nodes. no NR though and it never crashed. 

    Final cut i edit 4k hevc footage without making proxies... its crazy, my old intel i9 imac from 2019 maxxed out exported like 4 times slower.

    that kind of sold me to the laptops again, as i really only do edting and basic color. i mean it fits in a bagback...!

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