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  • Wed, Sep 9 2020 9:41 AM In reply to

    • postproud
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    Re: AVID Titler plus still useless?

    Hi,

     

    I would like to share my experience with titler + doing simple lower thirds and end credit roll

    for a 54 min documentary.

    Editing was done in 1080p, so the editor used the old title tool for everything. My task was to relink to 4k footage, send to color grading, assemble the graded movie with the audio mix, correct the tiles and credits and export an hd and a 4k master file.

    I had prior experience with a similar project where I recreated everything with titler plus (a year ago or so). I didnt't enjoy it, but at least I didn't have to go outside of mc.

    So this time I thought "well it's been a year, surely they must have fixed titler + in version 20.8".

    So:

    - promiting title tool to title tool + worked ok

    - repositionning the lower third in the safe title zone was a pain. It's not clear what is selected. sometimes

    editing in the fx editor works right away, sometimes it doesn't

    - rendering : after rendering, 80% of the title had moved randomely. I HAD TO CHECK AND RENDER EVERY TITLE MANUALY. this is a joke...

    - credit roll : It' just a pain. Can't edit text once the fx is activated. I have to undo it and drag to where I want to edit. Rendering takes forever, and get's lost randomely. Text formating get's lost randomely.

    - Oh and I forgot to mention random crashes. Also crashing when trying to select multiple layers.

    selecting text is extremely inconvenient. The cursor appears at seamingly random places.

    I tried to be constructive, but I want you to know that I hate this tool. It's an embarresement and a big "fu" in the face of the user. I can't understand how this could be published. A task that should have taken 2 hours tops, has taken me more than a day. I had to ask production for more time.

    PLEASE make something simple that works. I hope that this is one of avids highest priorities, titler + is just embarrassing. FIX THIS. This is a really basic functionnality and we need it. We really do. This is more important than some minor cosmetic tweeks to the ui.

  • Wed, Sep 9 2020 9:49 AM In reply to

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    Re: AVID Titler plus still useless?

    Would be good to know a timeframe from Avid.

  • Fri, Sep 11 2020 6:58 PM In reply to

    Re: AVID Titler plus still useless?

    This post encompasses my issues with it as well. 

    Robert Goodman :

    been using it for the fist time this week fir a real project and its still very inconsistent. sometimes it acts as normal - sometimes not. Positions shift all the time, cant do a simple keyframe thing at all, etc. the idea is there but the implemention is jacked up. not even a way to center text as far as i can tell because the bounding box is so tempremental. 

    hate having to use 2 windows too, one of which dissapears and the other (the effect editor) has a million options hidden in dropdowns that arent clear at all what they apply to. 

     

    optimistic they can fix this but I agree not having the title tool remain for the transition period seemed like a bad choice. 

     

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  • Tue, Sep 15 2020 10:44 PM In reply to

    Re: AVID Titler plus still useless?

    if someone can just tell me how to easily center a title that would be amazingright now. 

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    Re: AVID Titler plus still useless?

    morsey:

    Would be good to know a timeframe from Avid.

     

    That would, of course, require speculation which is against the forum guidelines.

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  • Fri, Sep 18 2020 4:27 PM In reply to

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  • Thu, Sep 24 2020 12:14 PM In reply to

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    Re: AVID Titler plus still useless?

    I had to use it today to create UHD titles as Marquee wont do that - despite one of its best attributes being that it is vector based and resolution independent....

    AVID TITLER MINUS IS A NIGHTMARE AND USELESS.

    Pretty shocked as its crashy dysfunctionality actually :-(

    Avid people are always bottom of teh tree when a client asks for a snazzy title - esp with a modern trajectory motion...

    >boots up Photoshop :-( <

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  • Fri, Sep 25 2020 1:37 AM In reply to

    Re: AVID Titler plus still useless?

    Why didn't the devs just replicate the old Title tool UI?

    This new app is totally useless and over complicated. It doesn't make sense developing a tool that is complicated and doesn't even work when you can just make something simple that works and let the users know you are working on something better. 

    This is a better option then making something that doesn't work at all. Really big fail and Avid aren't working fast enough to fix it while I still pay for a application that frustrates me every day.  

     

     

  • Fri, Sep 25 2020 4:50 PM In reply to

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    Re: AVID Titler plus still useless?

    brightblack:

    Why didn't the devs just replicate the old Title tool UI?

     

    That is the $64 question that has been asked by myself and others. There seems to be a serious lack of application architecture in Titler+, and a serious lack of experience in using, let alone designing, a character generator tool -- a wheel that's been invented by many (inscriber, TitleDeko, and to a lesser extent even the humble Title Tool.) Attempting to fix certin elements in a design that is so buggy, counterintuitive, and random does not bode well for a strong cohesive tool. I do wish the dev team the very best, especially since Titler+ was introduced two years ago, and remains for me so undependable that I cannot use it.

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  • Fri, Sep 25 2020 5:28 PM In reply to

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    Tested that on my 2020.8 version and the co,our picker works just fine. I can select any colour with thr dropper and the text becomes that colour.

    If I double click the colour selector panel opens. I did manage once to open the select colour and have it lose focus and drop behind the main MC interface. That then left the main MC interface unresponsive (just bonging) but just bringing the select colour pane back to the fore and using that resolved it.

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  • Sat, Sep 26 2020 9:03 PM In reply to

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    Re: AVID Titler plus still useless?

    Titler+ keeps improving with every release so when folks describe issues they are having, it would be great if they included the version of MC in which they find the issue...

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  • Mon, Sep 28 2020 5:40 PM In reply to

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    Re: AVID Titler plus still useless?

    My experience with the title tool: on an old Quadro system back many, many years ago, as an assistant, I did over 2,500 subtitles for a feature length documentary with the Title Tool. In 2020 I would not even try it. That's the progress the Title Tool has undergone.  

     

     

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  • Mon, Sep 28 2020 6:01 PM In reply to

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    Re: AVID Titler plus still useless?

    ns400r:

    My experience with the title tool: on an old Quadro system back many, many years ago, as an assistant, I did over 2,500 subtitles for a feature length documentary with the Title Tool. In 2020 I would not even try it. That's the progress the Title Tool has undergone.  

    Care to elaborate? Is there a missing feature that you would like to see added. The purpose of this sub-forum is to gather concrete ideas for how to improve the Titler+ tool in MC.

    Don't get me wrong - there are many things I don't like about the Titler+ tool. Some have been addressed since its introduction while others are pending. I am hopeful that if users contribute in concrete terms to this sub-forum that we can get those deficiencies addressed. It's to all our benefit and I truly believe Avid is listening so let's make this count.

    Cheers

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  • Mon, Sep 28 2020 7:49 PM In reply to

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    Re: AVID Titler plus still useless?

    BarkinMadd:

    Care to elaborate? Is there a missing feature that you would like to see added. The purpose of this sub-forum is to gather concrete ideas for how to improve the Titler+ tool in MC.

    Spot on Barkin.....

    :)

    Please start a new thread if it is a new idea.

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  • Mon, Sep 28 2020 7:50 PM In reply to

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    Re: AVID Titler plus still useless?

    morsey:

    Lol

    here is what I posted before... 9.24.2020 to be exact.

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    Community peeps....

    We have been working with a newly formed Media Composer Titler+ Beta Team to review all the high-priority items posted on community and Facebook to ensure we have a clear understanding of the pain points. The MC Titler+ Beta Team is a closed group of customers and unfortunately we cannot add any new members, however we encourage folks to post to this forum ( MC Titer+ forum ) with any added features and functionality you feel we should be made aware of. 

    Currently, we are working on updating the selection model so it’s easier to select and move text without changing it in ways you weren’t intending, adding text highlights for clearly defining what you’ve selected, adding new short-cut keys for common actions (like Grouping, Bold, Italic, Justification, etc.), updates to scaling so you can scale the text without changing the aspect ratio, and improving Rolls and Crawls with a new scroller.  

    While we will soon release a new version of Media Composer, it will have only minor fixes as the team wasn’t formed until last month and the updates previously mentioned are still in progress.  We expect to provide more news to the community mid-October and every month as we go through this improvement process.

    Hope that helps and onward to improving this feature.

    Marianna, Raff, Kate, Luc and Keith

     

     

     

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