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  • Wed, Aug 12 2020 1:21 PM

    • Rory T
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    Have Media Composer licensed the ProRes encoder from Apple?

    How official is the ProRes export on a windows PC?  I remember reading a long time ago that a lot of softwares reverese  engineer the ProRes codec to mimic Apples code.  

    In the past content being delivered has failed using these reverse-engineered codecs so exporting on OSX was the option used for an Apple ProRes delivery. 

    I noticed MediaInfo on the file exported from a PC using the ProRes codec will not say "Writing Library: Apple QuickTime" in the way it will after being exported on OSX but that may be not related to this topic. 

     

     

  • Fri, Aug 14 2020 1:08 PM In reply to

    Re: Have Media Composer licensed the ProRes encoder from Apple?

    I don't know ther details but I do know my ProRes PC exports behave just like Apple created ones so far.

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  • Fri, Aug 14 2020 1:38 PM In reply to

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    Re: Have Media Composer licensed the ProRes encoder from Apple?

    As well, I do not know the details.  But I think the chances that Avid would risk a lawsuit by Apple is virtually zero.

    Plus, Avid leans heavily on it's reputation with the professional media world.  To damage that would be very bad for business.

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  • Fri, Aug 14 2020 11:23 PM In reply to

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    Re: Have Media Composer licensed the ProRes encoder from Apple?

    You guys obviously didn't see the press release.  From that, it seemed pretty clear to me that there was a technology interchange, DNxHR in exchange for ProRes.

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  • Sat, Aug 15 2020 12:43 PM In reply to

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    Re: Have Media Composer licensed the ProRes encoder from Apple?

    No I didn't see that press release, do you have a link?

    As far as I am awear it is not illegal to reverse engineer a codec.  This is the article that talks about the issues https://blog.frame.io/2017/08/07/prores-on-windows/

  • Sat, Aug 15 2020 8:35 PM In reply to

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    Re: Have Media Composer licensed the ProRes encoder from Apple?

    That article was last updated two years ago.

     

    You can google avid prores to find the press release.

     

    As Pat and Jef have pointed out, Avid would be foolish financially and reputationally to reverse engineer prores.

  • Sun, Aug 16 2020 1:08 AM In reply to

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    Re: Have Media Composer licensed the ProRes encoder from Apple?

    Rory T:
    No I didn't see that press release, do you have a link?
    Yes I do, and it's not a two year old link.  It's from September last year.  The first para reads:

    Avid® (Nasdaq: AVID) today announced that Media Composer® will deliver native support for Apple’s ProRes RAW camera codec and support for ProRes playback and encoding on Windows. In addition, Apple will provide 64-bit decoders for DNxHR and DNxHD codecs within the Pro Video Formats package that is available from Apple as a free download for all users. These integrations will allow content creators and post-production companies to natively create high-quality ProRes content regardless of their OS and save time during the creative storytelling process.
    That certainly reads like a technology interchange to me.  You can read the whole thing by clicking https://www.avid.com/press-room/2019/09/avid-delivers-video-editing-workflows.

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  • Fri, Aug 21 2020 5:24 PM In reply to

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    Re: Have Media Composer licensed the ProRes encoder from Apple?

    It definitely reads like that. thank you for the link.

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