Terry Snyder:

AFAIK, I can't buy AME separately.   Or can I?

I'm pretty sure it's only available as part of the CC package.  

Andi

ripvanmarlowe:

I've had ProRes creation working fine on my HP using AME. 

If AME can encode ProRes from a PC, it begs the question...why can't MC do it from a PC as well?   I can't imagine a huge company like Adobe is scamming Apple, so they must have some licensing deal with Apple.   Since ProRes is one of the most commonly requested formats, Avid should follow Adobe's lead.

Ultimately I believe we'll see more output options for export. But in the meantime, here's the workflow I use:

1. Edit the timeline to create the master sequence.
2. Render the timeline ((you can't skip this step).
3. Export an AAF using the following settings:

4. Open Resolve. Create a new project (or for me I just alter the properties for the default untitled project) and set the properties to match that of your timeline:

5. From the Resolve File menu select Import Timeline:

This will import all of the clips used in the timeline and recreate the timeline as it existed in Media Composer.

6. Go to the Deliver tab and set your output parameters as necessary. There are some pre-built options for YouTube, Vimeo, etc. that you can select. Here I'm using the YouTube 2160 template. NOTE - by default the output format is QuickTime .MOV. I change it to MP4 as that's what I want.

It really is a fast workflow. Notee that for really complex timelines you may end up having to mixdown the timeline in MC first.

Hope this helps.

Nice summary, Dave - do you have any words of advice if Resolve claims that the media is offline?

And how to transfer any effect or audio keyframes from Avid to Resolve?..

sergiumm:

And how to transfer any effects or audio keyframes from Avid to Resolve?..

Yep, resize, PiP, keys, slomo and speedup etc do not translate nicely, if You extensively manipulated things You'll be better off with a videomixdown.

My workfllow - export QuickTime Reference, then TMPGenc Video Mastering Works - the last 

constantly updated app that works with QT ref

I always SAS and then TMPGEnc.

It's a good idea to export also Panasonic AVC Long Gop 25 for net.

Not another encoder needed. 

It's small and it is 422 10 bit. If you need that.

Very good Quality.

BarkinMadd:

Nice summary, Dave - do you have any words of advice if Resolve claims that the media is offline?

Sorry, but I haven't run into that problem. Yet. If it is claiming something is offline, I think it pops up a question asking if you want to check all drives for the media.

 

I like the idea of this Resolve workflow but in practice I'd be way too worried about something not translating between Avid and Resolve.  I'd have to QC the Resolve timeline before exporting and this makes it a waste of time. 

Mixdown > SAS QT master > strike deliverables through third party app like MPEG Streamclip or even faster, mixdown to OP1a and have AME make deliverables in background.  Avid definitely needs it's own version of AME with a "Send Timeline to..." function with a set of common presets or watch folders and yes, ProRes on PC.

If I need ProRes and I'm working on a PC at the moment, then I'm paying for a CC subscription. Or buying a used Mac mini.  

Andi

ripvanmarlowe:

I'd have to QC the Resolve timeline before exporting and this makes it a waste of time. 

Mixdown > SAS QT master > 

I do not understand.  If you are making a Mixdown, then an SAS master then transcoding  the Resolve method is quicker.  Just make the same mixdown and a mixdown timeline and export the AAF.   Resolve reads the mixdown directly from your MXF numbered folder.  You are ahead in the game as you do not have to export a SAS QT.  The deliver page then allows you to set up your deliver spec and save the settings for future use.  This Deliver page allows you create multiple different deliver formats from the same timeline at the same time and renders each that you select sequentially.  

The PC here renders H 264 ad H 265 between half (worst) and a fifth (optimistic) of real time.

I do not use any linked media, not that that makes any difference if you are using mixdown sequences.  From Avid media timelines I have never had a offline file on Resolve.  This makes sense to as my AAF media is all Avid media in the Avid MediaFiles folder (using the Avid media databases) I believe Pro Res is an option with PC delivers from Resolve, I do not use it for anything myself.

Alayne

The workflow mentioned doesn't involve making a mixdown, it involved sending an AAF to Resolve and relinking the media.  This is why I would now need to QC this timeline to double check that things like effects and speed changes have come across.  You are suggesting doing a mixdown and then sending to Resolve, which is fine and a good option but not what I was referencing.  

Andi

Some effect will not translate across. Some effects will. For example, the fade transition comes across without a mixdown whereas the PIP effect does not. When in doubt, you have to do a mixdown to be sure.

I'm not claiming it's a perfect solution, but it is a workable one.

There's no question that we ned far better options for output in MC. And at some point, I suspect that we will be seeing them. In the meantime, all we can do is offer work arounds for people to use.

Forgot to mention: You can't use QT Movie Same as Source for XAVC-S media. It's not an allowable resolution. So this is not an option.

And Avid did have something like AME. It was Sorenson Squeeze, till they discontinued the product.

If you need to do Prores, and you can't afford to get one of the Adobe products in order to use AME, take a look at Intertake by Acrovid. It supports creating Prores in a QT wrapper.