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    • Mike Shaw
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    Significance of the outline arrow in the effects editor

    I've noticed - and until now ignored - the largish outline up-pointing arrow that appears in the effect editor 'monitor' window, at the bottom right.

    I also noticed that on a stabilisation effect (brilliant in MC btw), when the picture is stabilized, the arrow jumps around rather like the original video did.

    I looked in the manual etc - but cannot (quickly) find reference to this arrow: is it there just to show the effect has been applied?  Does it have any other significance/usage?

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  • Sun, Jun 6 2010 1:50 PM In reply to

    Re: Significance of the outline arrow in the effects editor

    I have always taken it to mean that if you click on the monitor you can move the position of the clip with the mouse; but hey, perhaps there is some other deep significance....

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  • Sun, Jun 6 2010 5:08 PM In reply to

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    Re: Significance of the outline arrow in the effects editor

    Not tried that, but surely they wouldn't  put a thumping great arrow on the image to indicate just that?

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  • Sun, Jun 6 2010 5:11 PM In reply to

    Re: Significance of the outline arrow in the effects editor

    That arrow indicates the ORIGINAL orientation of the image when you apply rotation parameters to it. Open rotation and click on the X slider and type in 180 to see what I mean.

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  • Sun, Jun 6 2010 5:33 PM In reply to

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    Re: Significance of the outline arrow in the effects editor

    That's it?  Thanks Larry.   I thought it popped up even when I hadn't done anything that affected the image rotation.

    Still not sure I fully understand or appreciate the significance of knowing that info in such a 'dominant' way though.

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  • Sun, Jun 6 2010 6:42 PM In reply to

    Re: Significance of the outline arrow in the effects editor

    It is showing orientation as Larry said, you only need to apply any 3D effect to a clip in order to see it.  It helps you determine which way is up.  And I can only assume it's large because say if you scale an image back in Z space you may have trouble telling whether or not the image is flipped over or not. 

     

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  • Sun, Jun 6 2010 7:00 PM In reply to

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    Re: Significance of the outline arrow in the effects editor

    With all the sophistication of MC, there has to be an arrow to determine which way is up?  A big arrow in case it all gets 'shrunk down...??

    Well, I'm not doubting it because I'm still learning this stuff.  But sledgehammers and nuts do come to mind here!  See, when people have their heads where their feet should be ... and when the sky is at the bottom and the houses are at the top ...  that's when the picture is upside down  Big Smile

    Just kidding! 

     (They never thought of including that in Liquid!  Confused )

    Incedentally - it also shows up when doing a stabilisation job - also an orientation feature of course.  And I've noticed it on other occassions too, I think - probably if I check it out again, all to do with effec ts that have an orientation feature.

    I don't suppose there's a way to switch it off, is there?

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  • Sun, Jun 6 2010 7:22 PM In reply to

    Re: Significance of the outline arrow in the effects editor

    Mike Shaw:
    I don't suppose there's a way to switch it off, is there?

    To the best of my knowledge, no there isn't. It's especially useful when applying Z rotation.

     

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    Re: Significance of the outline arrow in the effects editor

    That arrow does come in very handy when spacial orientation isn't as obvious as "head and feet".

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  • Sun, Jun 6 2010 8:57 PM In reply to

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    Re: Significance of the outline arrow in the effects editor

    Never mind.  Now I know its purpose... 

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  • Sun, Jun 6 2010 10:03 PM In reply to

    Re: Significance of the outline arrow in the effects editor

    Hi,

    Mike Shaw:
    With all the sophistication of MC, there has to be an arrow to determine which way is up?  A big arrow in case it all gets 'shrunk down...??

    You might be working on a really complex effect build with lots of layers and turn off the the video monitoring in order to speed up the system response; the wireframe outline of the screen would remain, and the arrow would let you know the original orientation.

    ciao,
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  • Sun, Jun 6 2010 10:33 PM In reply to

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    Re: Significance of the outline arrow in the effects editor

    Now there is the definitive explanation !!  Thanks Carl.  Of course - I was assuming that the picture would always be visible (making orientation a wee bit obvious perhaps).  But turning off the video monitoring is a distinct possibility with this kind of editing power. 

    So now it makes perfect sense.

    Jeez, the designers of MC have thought of everything ...

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  • Sun, Jun 6 2010 10:39 PM In reply to

    Re: Significance of the outline arrow in the effects editor

    You're welcome, Mike!  :)

    Carl

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