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  • Tue, Jan 30 2018 9:55 PM

    Re-link issues, need help

    OSX, 8.9.1 (project started on 8.6.1 w/continual upgrades)

    I AMA linked, then transcoded (keep-source size etc) the following types ftg

    C300 mxf (many clips split into 5 minute chunks, etc) via Avid default (23.98 and some 29.97)

    XAVC (Sony, from both FS7 at 4K and a7 4k and a7 HD) via Drastic plug-in, and after 8.8, via Avid default (23.98)

    Red 4K via plugin

    Canon 5D, Avid default

    Panasonic (MP4 4k, some 59.94, some 24)

    multi track Audio recorded double system 23.98

     

    Now I am trying to AMA re-link for hi rez, and also have several colorists run a test.

    This is a 6-part broadcast doc with an imminent deadline.

     

    The audio partially re-links. 4 tracks here, 4 tracks there, but other sets of tracks recorded the same time do not re-link. Seems random somehow.

    None of the FS7 brought in via Drastic re-links. (I uninstalled the Drastic plug-in for crashes after 8.8...)

    None of the Panny MP4.

    I have also read warnings about the Canon split files but haven't tested some of those yet.

     

    Any thoughts about what to do now?

     

    Mark

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • Wed, Jan 31 2018 9:54 PM In reply to

    Re: Re-link issues, need help

    Just curious as to why you need to relink audio? I usually leave that as is...create a new sequence picture only, relink that foir high-res and then marry that with the final mix.

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  • Wed, Jan 31 2018 11:32 PM In reply to

    Re: Re-link issues, need help

    I don't need to, But of course would saves the steps you describe.

    Be nice if the re-link worked seamlessly.

    My workflow was camera cards copied to external drive (6 2TB in all)

    Ama bins for each card.

    Then transcoded each AMA bin to low rez onto a 12tvb array and edited with those files.

    I then created several select sequences to send to a colorist.

    Hooked up all 6 externals at once to the usb chain.

    And the result was less than 50%.

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  • Thu, Feb 1 2018 9:31 AM In reply to

    • Bruno M
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    Re: Re-link issues, need help

    +1 for Kevin's suggestion about the audio. Having to re-link audio is just adding uneccessary complications with no benefit.

    Mark Moskowitz:

    I then created several select sequences to send to a colorist.

    Hooked up all 6 externals at once to the usb chain.

    And the result was less than 50%.

    Have you thought of leaving the re-linking of the camera originals to the colourist?

    If they're working on Resolve, the re-linking from an AAF works quite well. Of course, this means you will have to send them all your camera originals. I suspect they won't be happy running these off multiple USB drives, so they'll need to copy the contents to their local (faster) storage.

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  • Thu, Feb 1 2018 1:55 PM In reply to

    Re: Re-link issues, need help

    Thanks Bruno for your answer.

    Audio, understood.

    As far as the video: the plan was to, yes, put all 6 externals onto a 16TB array, all drive names and files identical, and send the 16tb array to the colorist. Test it here, of course, first.

    However, we are still choosing one and want to send 4 different 2 minute scenes to several (it is a 6 hours series--complex number of sources--and want to get various demos). For that test/demo I would just like to consolidate the media for the 2-minute selects into a sequence, or 4 sequences of 2 minutes each, and send the project. I also, down the road, don't want an issue, with deadlines looming, about re-linking at the Resolve end--and who's to blame, etc.

    If we can re-link, then they can, I hope, if not, it's on them.

    If we can't even do it, and leave it to them, that's too much leeway in time-and-cost in a job like this.

     

    Thanks, Mark

     

     

     

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  • Thu, Feb 1 2018 6:10 PM In reply to

    • luca.mg
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    Re: Re-link issues, need help

    As for the audio, You may consolidate it, duplicate the sequence, remove all video tracks, consolidate; get the source sequnce with the all video tracks, duplicate again (to have a backup), replace the linked audio with the consolidate.

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  • Fri, Feb 2 2018 3:41 AM In reply to

    Re: Re-link issues, need help

    For the moment, resolved.

    Clips from a Sony A7rii seemed to have been the culprit, and for some reason when re-linked with all the other bins, caused some sort of issue. When weeded out, everything else worked.

    The A7 clips then need a crazy sort of workaround it took 3 ours to figure out and a lot of manual re-naming and so on.

    The Sony FS7 stuff turned out to be fine.

    The A7 may be due to some time-code messiness on the transcode. Once all time code was set to zero and a new link column was made with identical names and the relink pointed to that, it worked. I am wondering if I need some sort of later Sony source browser link plug-in.

    Thanks.

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