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  • Thu, Aug 21 2008 3:30 PM

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    render bug in 25p pal project ? please help or at least confirm!

    i'm curently working on a pal project, filmed on a panasonic hvx 200 in 720x576 25p on p2 cards.

    created a 25p pal project, imported the material, everything worked fine until it came to rendering the effects. nothing special: some titles (done in title tool AND in marquee), a few disolves, fades at hread and tail of movie and a trim to fill. real time preview looked always good and normal.

    BUT:

    when i rendered all effects to do an export: starting dissolve of titles is all good, but ending disolve is extremly resized vertically, also the trim to fill and the up- and down- fades at start and end of the film. checked everything: media creation is mxf 25p, render setting uses both fields.

    then i discovered in the media tool: the precomputes - some are 'dv 25p 420' and (the bad ones) 'dv 25 420' !

    is this a bug? anyone experienced the same prob? solution?

    tested it in 5.8.3 and 5.8.4...

    greetz

    soko

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  • Thu, Aug 21 2008 3:34 PM In reply to

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    Re: render bug in 25p pal project ? please help or at least confirm!

     Check your effects aperture setting. See if it's set to 576.

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  • Thu, Aug 21 2008 3:48 PM In reply to

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    Re: render bug in 25p pal project ? please help or at least confirm!

     where can i check this?

    first time ever that i hear/read this!

  • Thu, Aug 21 2008 3:58 PM In reply to

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    Re: render bug in 25p pal project ? please help or at least confirm!

     

    I'm not in front of my system right now but check your settings under either render or general.

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  • Thu, Aug 21 2008 4:06 PM In reply to

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    Re: render bug in 25p pal project ? please help or at least confirm!

    blackdog, thats not the solution.

    found the topic in the online help, the setting is under general, but this only applies to ntsc projects, i'm in pal....

    the strage thing is that i haven't changed anything in the project. the starting desolves look good, but the end effect of e.g. the same title is resized!!!

    and the precomputes change in resolution. some are correct in dv 25p 420 and the wrong ones in dv 25 420 ....

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    Re: render bug in 25p pal project ? please help or at least confirm!

     Well, precomputes can't change once they are created. You can choose different resolutions while creating. Could that have been the case? What happens if you recreate the wrong precomputes? 

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  • Thu, Aug 21 2008 4:21 PM In reply to

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    Re: render bug in 25p pal project ? please help or at least confirm!

     what i did in hope to solve the problem:

    deleted all precomputes and re-rendered all fx. again same result. then deleted all precomputes again, changed project format from 25p pal to 1080p/25 and re-redered the fx. results improved: the end disolves looked correct at first sight, but looking closer there was still a shift in the lines,

    the whole picture shifted a few lines upwards. AND the trimm to fill lokked like sh**, even worse than the bad render under 25p...

    what could i try? i could videomixdown to 411 and see if it improves...

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    Re: render bug in 25p pal project ? please help or at least confirm!

    Might be a way  to go but, could you try a test? Open a new 25p project and cut a new sequence in it. Make sure the resolution of your clips is all the same. Now try the effects again. Do you STILL see the problem?

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  • Thu, Aug 21 2008 4:46 PM In reply to

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    Re: render bug in 25p pal project ? please help or at least confirm!

    still the SAME problem. two brand new shots, one disolve between them - the disolve vertically streched.

    deleting all precomputes and doing a videomixdown in dv25p 411 mxf did it. problem solved! tried the same with dv 25p 420 mxf (all fx unrendered) worked too.

    rendered the effects for testing - error still there.

    looks like a bug to me or a prob on my machine that i don't see. but at least i can go on with my work. maybe someone can confirm if bug.

    BLKDOG thx alot for you help and efforts!

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    Re: render bug in 25p pal project ? please help or at least confirm!

     Glad you found a workaround, You might try deleting your MCStates and site settings to see if anything happens there.

    This is soundling like the effects are trying to go between two different resolutions though. Is that possible?

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  • Thu, Aug 21 2008 4:57 PM In reply to

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    Re: render bug in 25p pal project ? please help or at least confirm!

    BLKDOG:
    the effects are trying to go between two different resolutions

     yup, that seems to be the explanation.

    i'm finishing the project right now. i'll tell you in half an hour if deleting mcstates and site settings changed the situation. i'll get back to you...

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    Re: render bug in 25p pal project ? please help or at least confirm!

    Is your media captured in different resolutions/Frame sizes? 

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  • Thu, Aug 21 2008 5:21 PM In reply to

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  • Thu, Aug 21 2008 8:48 PM In reply to

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    Re: render bug in 25p pal project ? please help or at least confirm!

    to delete mcstates and sire settings didn't help!

    i hope there is someone who can recreate my situation and tell me if its a bug or a problem of my installation...

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    Re: render bug in 25p pal project ? please help or at least confirm!

    What format is your media?  Earlier you say

    Soko:
    some are correct in dv 25p 420 and the wrong ones in dv 25 420

    and then later

    Soko:
    i could videomixdown to 411 and see if it improves

    If you're using DVcam (420) and mixing it with DVCpro 25 footage (411) this could be your problem.

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