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  • Sun, Oct 3 2021 9:56 AM

    What is "Direct Out" Export for?

    Sorry for the simple question today,

     

    I was wondeirng when one might set their audio settings to Direct Out upon export? What is Direct Out?

     

    Thanks in advance.

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  • Sun, Oct 3 2021 10:23 AM In reply to

    Re: What is "Direct Out" Export for?

    It means that each individual mono track on your timeline is exported as its own channel. So if you were to have 9 mono tracks and you export (or monitor) Direct Out, you would end up with an export containing 9 audio channels, each being a 'flattened' version of the corresponding timeline track.

    Many use cases. Many use it to send each separate track into a physical outboard mixer. More often it is used when creating masters where you may have to deliver stuff like:

    A1: Stereo Left

    A2: Stereo Right

    A3: M&E Left

    A4: M&E Right

    A5: 5.1 L

    A6: 5.1 R

    A7: 5.1 C

    A8: 5.1 Lfe

    A9: 5.1 Ls

    A10: 5.1 Rs

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  • Sun, Oct 3 2021 10:41 AM In reply to

    Re: What is "Direct Out" Export for?

    As Job says, there are many uses. In news you use direct out to split the reporter/correspondent voiceover from the nat/background sound in the finished piece that is kept in the archive, so the b-roll can be used again at some point in the future

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  • Sun, Oct 3 2021 11:55 AM In reply to

    Re: What is "Direct Out" Export for?

    Job ter Burg:

    It means that each individual mono track on your timeline is exported as its own channel. So if you were to have 9 mono tracks and you export (or monitor) Direct Out, you would end up with an export containing 9 audio channels, each being a 'flattened' version of the corresponding timeline track.

    Many use cases. Many use it to send each separate track into a physical outboard mixer. More often it is used when creating masters where you may have to deliver stuff like:

    A1: Stereo Left

    A2: Stereo Right

    A3: M&E Left

    A4: M&E Right

    A5: 5.1 L

    A6: 5.1 R

    A7: 5.1 C

    A8: 5.1 Lfe

    A9: 5.1 Ls

    A10: 5.1 Rs

    Thank you for this!

     

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  • Sat, Feb 4 2023 9:33 PM In reply to

    Re: What is "Direct Out" Export for?

    What happens in the event of stereo 5.1 and 7.1 tracks? Are these expanded to mono in the export?
  • Sat, Feb 4 2023 11:16 PM In reply to

    Re: What is "Direct Out" Export for?

    Good question, I have never checked that. If you want to be sure, you could 'Convert to Mono' before doing a Direct Out export.

    Other than that, I would expect that Direct Out lets you route each individual (monophonic) channel of multichannel tracks.

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  • Mon, Feb 6 2023 9:01 PM In reply to

    Re: What is "Direct Out" Export for?

    Just did an FFPROBE test and a round trip to Avid. For those curious: DIRECT OUT creates a single stream per channel. 5.1 will be 6 mono channels. Stereo will be 2 mono channels. No metadata indicating placement so the file is not aware of being part of a stereo or 5.1 set.
  • Mon, Feb 6 2023 11:42 PM In reply to

    Re: What is "Direct Out" Export for?

    nevermind

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  • Tue, Feb 7 2023 3:22 PM In reply to

    Re: What is "Direct Out" Export for?

    I've just masterd a show where i had to do a (what i would call) regular 5.1 + stereo delivery, as well as an Interleaved stereo delivery.

    Regular, as pointed out earlier, is setting you output to direct, and each channel goes in order of the timeline.  In my case

    L,R,C,LFE,Ls,Rs, MixL, MixR

    For Interleaved, and had to create several stereo tracks, plus 1 5.1 track.  So my timeline was 

    1-stereomix

    2-5.1mix

    3-Stereo MandE mix

    4-Stereo FX only

    5-stereo dialog only

    6-Stereo Music only without lyrics

    7-Stereo Described Video

    The final master file had to have this same layout, and after a few tests, Direct out was again the solution.

    I did have to make sure in my mixer panel all 7 tracks were numbered according to their placement, as that was the order direct out followed.  The originally started out with some higher track numbers, probably because of me starting with a "regular" sequence as a base model, and adding the above stereo tracks into the mix.

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