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  • Sun, Feb 24 2019 5:16 PM

    Export As: h.264 MP4 but NOT Quicktime

    which of the following seventeen (17) options in the ("Export As") menu will create an MP4 file format with the h.264 CODEC while fully avoiding anything to do with Quicktime?

    My main goal is to end up with a file that is in no way "quicktime" (not connected to quicktime, not affiliated with quicktime, not created via quicktime, nor in any other way having anything to do with quicktime)

    I did go into "Format Options" but that can still leave you with something to do with Quicktime.

    kind thanks

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  • Sun, Feb 24 2019 9:16 PM In reply to

    • smrpix
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    Re: Export As: h.264 MP4 but NOT Quicktime

    The "Avid Media Processor" option will allow you to export an h.264 file using any of the Panasonic Long GOP options.  However, it is wrapped in mxf, not mp4 and will have a PCM, not AAC audio track.

     

    It is far faster than a quicktime export.

     

    You can then create an mp4 very quickly by passing the video through and converting the audio.

    One method is to use an ffmpeg command such as:

    -i myfile.mxf -vcodec copy -c:a aac -b:a 320k -ar 48000 -o mynewfile.mp4

     

  • Sun, Feb 24 2019 10:52 PM In reply to

    Re: Export As: h.264 MP4 but NOT Quicktime

    That's exactly the kind of answer I was looking for. Also, into where would I input that ffmpeg command? The DOS command prompt that is included as part of Windows 10?

    Thank you so much!

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  • Mon, Feb 25 2019 3:28 PM In reply to

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    Re: Export As: h.264 MP4 but NOT Quicktime

    ffmpeg is an open source project. You can find it on ffmpeg.org.

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  • Mon, Feb 25 2019 3:50 PM In reply to

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    Re: Export As: h.264 MP4 but NOT Quicktime

    If you're going to be doing this a lot, there are also some good GUI front ends for FFmpeg that allow you to save presets and batch process.

     

    Two of my favorites are WinFF (free, but please contribute) and MyFFmpeg (inexpensive.)

  • Mon, Feb 25 2019 11:05 PM In reply to

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    Re: Export As: h.264 MP4 but NOT Quicktime

    how does the bitrate of these Panasonic Long GOP options compare to the standard adobe encoder youtube/vimeo presets?

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  • Tue, Feb 26 2019 6:27 AM In reply to

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    Re: Export As: h.264 MP4 but NOT Quicktime

    What version of MC are you running? My version 8.5.3 dos not include the Avid Media Processor option.

    One simple workaround for getting a good small MP4 file is to use YouTube - upload the video in a HQ H264 file format, then download MP4 from YT - it seems that YT has a very good conversion software which results in small files. :)

    I can't seem to find an MP4 non QT format in my export to file options.

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  • Tue, Feb 26 2019 8:48 AM In reply to

    Re: Export As: h.264 MP4 but NOT Quicktime

    Its been an ongoing request for a sinple H264 MP4 export option from MC for ages. The alter versions offer the H264 in an MXF but the re-wrap etc isn't practical for an editor needing to pump them out every day during an edit.

    Most editors have some sort of encoding solution even if its just handbrake so doing a same as source export and then transcoding isn't that much of a pain. But Avid should just sort this. And while at it make it a background process.

    Yes please.

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  • Tue, Feb 26 2019 1:52 PM In reply to

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    Re: Export As: h.264 MP4 but NOT Quicktime

    Adrian Redmond:

    What version of MC are you running? My version 8.5.3 dos not include the Avid Media Processor option.

     

    Previously it was called something like AMA Export -- not sure how far back that goes or which codecs were included at the time.

     

  • Tue, Feb 26 2019 1:54 PM In reply to

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    Re: Export As: h.264 MP4 but NOT Quicktime

    Pat Horridge:
    But Avid should just sort this. And while at it make it a background process.

     

    I know we're not allowed to speculate here -- but my "educated guess" is that it has more to do with AAC audio licensing than technical limitations.

     

  • Tue, Feb 26 2019 4:47 PM In reply to

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    Re: Export As: h.264 MP4 but NOT Quicktime

    The problem with Avid is it doesnt give good enough 2nd or 3rd best solutions.

    For exporting, next best solution after good h264/5 exports would be a same as source mxf (not quicktime) without having to mixdown.  I render everything as dnxhr_lb to my NVME drive as I work.  I should be able to export a fully rendered UHD timeline quickly if everything is rendered, but instead It recompresses everything and it uses a ton of cpu (and takes time) to export.

     

    For rendering:  MC doesnt use much hyperthreading.  Next best solution would be if media composer rendered multiple clips simeltaneously or multiple background jobs simeltaneously.

     

    I expect these kind of limitations from an Iphone.  But not from professional software that I am paying a subscription fee for.

    If Avid has too much on their plate, then it would be nice if they opened up the software a bit so people could easily make exporting plugins.  Like this guy who made a plugin for AME https://www.voukoder.org/  its litteraly 1 file that goes into adobe's plugin folder, and it gave me much better exporting capabilities with NVENC.

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  • Tue, Feb 26 2019 6:29 PM In reply to

    Re: Export As: h.264 MP4 but NOT Quicktime

    I think Michael Phillips did some tests a while ago and he concluded that an MXF file export was actually faster than a Same As Source QT export, even -- or mostly so -- when unrendered. http://24p.com/wordpress/?p=278

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  • Mon, Mar 4 2019 11:08 AM In reply to

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    Re: Export As: h.264 MP4 but NOT Quicktime

    The simple answer is export .mov and just change the file extension to .mp4

    All the solutions previously discussed are also a good options.

    My workflow is to export  .mxf same as source and then use that as master to create all export derivatives in Adobe media encoder with Voukoder HEVNC Plug in.

    The .mxf export is what is archived with the project as the master.

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  • Mon, Mar 4 2019 12:43 PM In reply to

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    Re: Export As: h.264 MP4 but NOT Quicktime

    Does anybody make this Drastic Mediareaktor Plugin working? Drastic TV make adverticement with an h264 export option, but on my system it do not work since a half year.
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  • Mon, Mar 4 2019 6:47 PM In reply to

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    Re: Export As: h.264 MP4 but NOT Quicktime

    Why don't you just export an MXF and then use the free version of Davinci Resolve to transcode to MP4. It's very fast and easy to use.

    I do it all the time, even vice-versa for let's say transcode Panasonic GH5 files to MXF or ProRes for editing in AVID or Premiere.

    Even as 'just' an encoding program, Resolve is a great tool in the toolbox.

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