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  • Thu, Sep 29 2016 6:50 PM In reply to

    Re: Is There No Longer a Free Version for Video Editing?

    Thanks.  We are working on hi-res display support.  It's not the same engineering team that would be working on Media Composer First.   You might also want to know that every single post production company and large media company is strongly encouraging us to hurry up and get First to market.  The need the next generation of editors to learn the Avid workflow so they can use them in their businesses.  I just came back from IBC and every company was asking when First is shipping.  Most have no need for the product, but they want folks who want to enter the industry to have Avid experience. 

    I hear you, you want more features and think this First development will detract from ing more features. That is not the case. You could not know how we develop our products and I can assure you that we will continue the rapid pace of Media Composer development.  We have countless university and colleges with an Avid curriculum.   I see the actual sales data for Media Composer, Pro Tools, Sibelius.  I know how many we sell directly to students and institutions and its a lot.

    Why would you assume institutions wouldn't have Avid and other company's products? Students and Universities want to learn everything. Avid, Adobe, Apple, BlackMagic- they want their students as well-rounded as possible as they leave school.  

    Thanks for your feedback, I appreciate the dialog.


    Dave

  • Thu, Sep 29 2016 6:56 PM In reply to

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    Re: Is There No Longer a Free Version for Video Editing?

    Dave Avid PM:
     We have countless university and colleges with an Avid curriculum.

    Interesting.  Can you elaborate on this? 

     

    Dave Avid PM:
    You might also want to know that every single post production company and large media company is strongly encouraging us to hurry up and get First to market.

    This is a very bold statement.  Every SINGLE one?  How do you back this up?  

    Scott Witthaus

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  • Thu, Sep 29 2016 7:07 PM In reply to

    Re: Is There No Longer a Free Version for Video Editing?

    The best place to start is here:

    http://www.avid.com/avid-for-education

    There is more, of course than what's highlighted here.  Middlesex Univerisity, USC, Full Sail are a few of the bigger schools. There are many more.

    The difference between Avid and other companies EDU opportunity is we can truly present a whole workflow for news and post-production. It is not just about editors at a lot of institutions.  

     

    Take care,


    Dave 

     

  • Thu, Sep 29 2016 7:15 PM In reply to

    Re: Is There No Longer a Free Version for Video Editing?

    From Middlesex University, here are a couple of links showing multiple editing products in their post production suites:

    http://www.mdx.ac.uk/life-at-middlesex/facilities/specialist-facilities/media-and-performing-arts/post-production-and-edit-suites#post-production

     

    and their customized newsroom solution

     

    http://www.mdx.ac.uk/life-at-middlesex/facilities/specialist-facilities/media-and-performing-arts/newsroom

     

    Thanks again,


    Dave

  • Thu, Sep 29 2016 7:29 PM In reply to

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    Re: Is There No Longer a Free Version for Video Editing?

    OK, so you are talking journalism programs and multiple editor situations.

    You mentioned Full Sail.  Full Sail also has an program called Project Launchbox.  Basically if you are an online student in film, after your 4th month, they send you a Mac Laptop loaded with software you need.  The link below shows you what is included

    https://www.fullsail.edu/degrees/film-bachelor

    https://fullsailunveiled.wordpress.com/launch-box/

    So I think we may be talking two different things:  you in journalism and multiple editor situations and me in the broader scope of visual storytelling?  

     

    Scott Witthaus

    Owner/Editor/Post Production Supervisor 1708 Editorial

    http://vimeopro.com/1708editorial/1708-editorial

  • Thu, Sep 29 2016 7:43 PM In reply to

    Re: Is There No Longer a Free Version for Video Editing?

    Hi,

    Maybe.  I guess I see Media Composer First as solving a few situations.  For students for education and other folks for broader scope of storytelling.  I know about the full sail launchbox, it includes Pro Tools and Sibelius.  Anyway, my point of this whole string is that there are many facets to First and Avid is pretty relevant in education today. It is important that Avid keep a presence in freemium products and EDU.

     

    Dave

  • Fri, Sep 30 2016 12:18 AM In reply to

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    Re: Is There No Longer a Free Version for Video Editing?

    Dave Avid PM:
    You might also want to know that every single post production company and large media company is strongly encouraging us to hurry up and get First to market.

    Can you comment on this statement?  Would this be better stated as "every single production company and large media company that uses Avid products is strongly...."?

    Scott Witthaus

    Owner/Editor/Post Production Supervisor 1708 Editorial

    http://vimeopro.com/1708editorial/1708-editorial

  • Fri, Sep 30 2016 12:45 AM In reply to

    Re: Is There No Longer a Free Version for Video Editing?

    OMG! of course, Avid products is the correct wording here.  Thanks!

  • Fri, Sep 30 2016 1:05 AM In reply to

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    Re: Is There No Longer a Free Version for Video Editing?

    I really think more uniform and consistant conversations need to take place. While these surges are informative, they do not deflect the idea that at times, from outside the tower, many get the impression that things are going nowhere.

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  • Fri, Sep 30 2016 9:02 PM In reply to

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    Re: Is There No Longer a Free Version for Video Editing?

    Dave Avid PM:

    We are working on hi-res display support.  It's not the same engineering team that would be working on Media Composer First.  

     

    Ok, I get this.  But it's sort of like if I went to a mechanic, and they said it would take several days to fix my brakes. I point out the 2 employees assembling a hot-air balloon and ask why they can't help get my brakes done faster. After all, it's supposed to be an auto-repair shop. Or so I thought. And the boss replies that those guys are hot-air balloon guys, and can't help. But don't worry, because my brakes still will take the same amount of time regardless of divided resources and time. So, my real issue is the fact that resources seem to be used in areas unrelated to what is ultimately the goal of the paying customer.  

    Regarding your other point, I would honestly think that ANY post-production company, if responding honestly, would rather give you a list of feature requests to finish rather than a freemium software package. Is that honestly at the top of their list? It could be. I don't know. But it's hard to imagine. Have you specifically heard a post-house say this freeware is a more important use of man-hours than MC improvements? 

    To bring back my stupid analogy, hot-air balloons may seem like a good long term strategy to get folks attention. But having the best, most reliable auto-repair work is really what I see as the obvious priority. And hiring, planning, and resource delegation should reflect that priority.  Response?

     

     

     

     

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  • Mon, Oct 3 2016 1:13 AM In reply to

    Re: Is There No Longer a Free Version for Video Editing?

    Atomike:
    Have you specifically heard a post-house say this freeware is a more important use of man-hours than MC improvements? 

    Yes, I have, at IBC this year, countless, also broadcasters, resellers and EDU.

  • Mon, Oct 3 2016 2:40 PM In reply to

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    Re: Is There No Longer a Free Version for Video Editing?

    Dave Avid PM:

    Atomike:
    Have you specifically heard a post-house say this freeware is a more important use of man-hours than MC improvements? 

    Yes, I have, at IBC this year, countless, also broadcasters, resellers and EDU.

    Ok. I guess it's hard to disagree with "countless" (i.e. more than a human can count) of customers who specifically said they prefer this direction for Avid. 

    Can Avid do both with exciting results? Perhaps. You've still got about a month or two until most people's subscription runs out. So, we'll see what exciting new features are added to MC in that time.

    I appreciate your response. It's been VERY educational. It's always good for forum-readers to know what Avid as a company values, and what it does not value. 

    Media Composer version: usually newest release, or 1 behind. Nvidia GTX 1070Ti Windows 10, Core i7 8700K processor, ASRock GA 1151 Z370 Motherboard... [view my complete system specs]

    I spend most of my time between New York and Los Angeles.  In Nebraska.

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